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by Joseph Smith, Jr. and my testimony concerning the Book of Abraham and these:
Source: woodland institute.com or .org, which was taken down.
The King Follett Sermon
7 April 1844 (Sunday Afternoon) (There were several stenographers who recorded this sermon, and it will be repeated several times which will be basically the same but some stenographers recorded details others did not, which accounts for the apparent differences. It would be suspicious if they were all exactly the same. There are many words in these sermons which the stenographers abbreviated which I will spell out plainly. If I don’t know what the abbreviation stands for I will leave the abbreviation as is. It is apparent that the one printed in the Times and seasons has the wrong date on it as it is the exact same sermon with more detail (It let out at the exact same time as the other accounts and the same person said an opening prayer at the beginning), so I will put the last sermon in my source as the second to last sermon in this blog entry and the sermon on plurality of Gods will be last. I will indicate that the incorrect given date is Thursday, August 15’th, in its place. B.L.S.) (Note: About 10,000 people witnessed this sermon being preached. B.L.S.)
by Joseph Smith, Jr. and my testimony concerning the Book of Abraham and these:
Source: woodland institute.com or .org, which was taken down.
The King Follett Sermon
7 April 1844 (Sunday Afternoon) (There were several stenographers who recorded this sermon, and it will be repeated several times which will be basically the same but some stenographers recorded details others did not, which accounts for the apparent differences. It would be suspicious if they were all exactly the same. There are many words in these sermons which the stenographers abbreviated which I will spell out plainly. If I don’t know what the abbreviation stands for I will leave the abbreviation as is. It is apparent that the one printed in the Times and seasons has the wrong date on it as it is the exact same sermon with more detail (It let out at the exact same time as the other accounts and the same person said an opening prayer at the beginning), so I will put the last sermon in my source as the second to last sermon in this blog entry and the sermon on plurality of Gods will be last. I will indicate that the incorrect given date is Thursday, August 15’th, in its place. B.L.S.) (Note: About 10,000 people witnessed this sermon being preached. B.L.S.)
Location: At Temple, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, USA
Source: Joseph Smith Diary, by Willard Richards (Words of Joseph Smith, 340-43)
3 ¼ p.m.-Joseph commenced speaking on the subject of the Dead--relative to the death of elder King Follett who was crushed in a well. By the falling of a tub of rock on him. –
If men do not comprehend the character of God they do not comprehend themselves. what kind of being is God? -- Eternal life is to know God. -- if man does not know God, has not Eternal life. -- if I am so fortunate as to comprehend and explain the [incomplete thought] let everyone sit in silence and never lift your voice against the servants of God again.
Every man has a right to be a false prophet. as well as a true prophet -- in the beginning. Before the world was. -- Is a man like one of yourselves. -- should you see him to day you would see a man in fashion and in form. Adam was formed in his likeness. –
Source: Joseph Smith Diary, by Willard Richards (Words of Joseph Smith, 340-43)
3 ¼ p.m.-Joseph commenced speaking on the subject of the Dead--relative to the death of elder King Follett who was crushed in a well. By the falling of a tub of rock on him. –
If men do not comprehend the character of God they do not comprehend themselves. what kind of being is God? -- Eternal life is to know God. -- if man does not know God, has not Eternal life. -- if I am so fortunate as to comprehend and explain the [incomplete thought] let everyone sit in silence and never lift your voice against the servants of God again.
Every man has a right to be a false prophet. as well as a true prophet -- in the beginning. Before the world was. -- Is a man like one of yourselves. -- should you see him to day you would see a man in fashion and in form. Adam was formed in his likeness. –
refute the Idea that God was God from all eternity—Jesus
said as the Father had power in himself even so hath the son power to do what
the father did. Lay down his body. And
take it up again. – you have got to learn how to make yourselves God, Kings,
Priests, etc.—by going from a small to great capacity. Till they are able to dwell in everlasting
burning and everlasting power –
how consoling when called to part with a dear friend. to know their very being will rise to dwell in everlasting
burning. -- heirs of God. And ascend a throne as those who have gone before. --I saw the father work out his kingdom with
fear and trembling. -- god is glorified
in salvation Exaltation-- of his ancestors etc. -- not all to be comprehended
in this world. -- the head, or the head one-- The head one of the Gods, brought
forth the Gods.-- Doctor and Lawyers that have persecuted. -- The head one
called the Gods together in grand council-- to bring forth the world. -- Example of error as yocab Jacob-- the son
of Zebedee--And James. James the son of
Zebedee 4 Matthew 21. Greek, Hebrew, German, and Latin. -- In the beginning the
head of the gods called a council of the
Gods--and concocted a scheme to create the world.--Soon as we begin to
understand the character of Gods he begins to unfold the heavens to us. -- Doctors say. -- created the earth out of
nothing. Borau. --creates --it means to
organized. -- God had materials to organize the world. Elements-- nothing can destroy. No beginning no end. –
The soul. Doctors of
Divinity. God created in the beginning-- he never the character of man. don’t believe
it.--who told you God was self existent? Correct enough. -- in hebrew
put into him his spirit.--which was created before. Mind of man coequal with God himself. friends separated for a small moment from
their spirits. coequal with God. and hold converse when they are one with
another—
If man had a beginning he must have an end. -- might
proclaim. God never had power to create the spirit of man
Intelligence exist upon a self existent principle no creation about it. all mind and spirit God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement. -- all things God has seen fit proper to reveal while dwelling in mortality, are revealed. precisely the same as if we were destitute of bodies.—
Intelligence exist upon a self existent principle no creation about it. all mind and spirit God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement. -- all things God has seen fit proper to reveal while dwelling in mortality, are revealed. precisely the same as if we were destitute of bodies.—
what will save our spirits will save our bodies--our
tabernacles--for our spirits--All spirits who have not obeyed the Gospel must
be damned.--who have not obeyed the decrees of the son of man.
We are looked upon by God as though we were in Eternity-- the greatest responsibility resting upon us is to look after our dead--they without us cannot be made perfect without us. Meet Paul ½ way.-- Hence the saying of Elijah.--God made provisions before the world was for every creature in
We are looked upon by God as though we were in Eternity-- the greatest responsibility resting upon us is to look after our dead--they without us cannot be made perfect without us. Meet Paul ½ way.-- Hence the saying of Elijah.--God made provisions before the world was for every creature in
All sin shall be forgiven in this world or world to come--
except one
Salvation for all men who have not committed a certain sin can save any man who has not committed the unpardonable sin. cannot commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body. Knowledge save a man –
Salvation for all men who have not committed a certain sin can save any man who has not committed the unpardonable sin. cannot commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body. Knowledge save a man –
No way for a man to come to understanding but give his
consent to the commandment Damned by mortification-- a lake as of fire and
brimstone -- as exquisite the disappointment of the mind of man—
Why? Must commit the unpardonable sin in this world. will suffer
in the eternal world until he will be exalted.—
work of the devil. The
plans the devil laid to save the world.—
Devil said he could save them all--Lot fell on Jesus.-- All sin
etc. forgiven except the sin against the Holy Ghost.--Got to deny the plan of
salvation etc.with his eyes open. Like
many of the apostates of christ of the
church of Jesus Christ of last Days.
Let All be careful. --lest you be deceived. Best man brings forth best works.
To the mourners, your friend has gone to wait the perfection of the reunion--the resurrection of your friend in felicity. While worlds must wait myriads of years before they can receive the like blessings. -- Leave the subject. Bless those who have lost friends. Only gone for a few moments—
To the mourners, your friend has gone to wait the perfection of the reunion--the resurrection of your friend in felicity. While worlds must wait myriads of years before they can receive the like blessings. -- Leave the subject. Bless those who have lost friends. Only gone for a few moments—
Shall mothers have their Children? Yes. they shall have it without price. Redemption is paid possesing all the
intelligence of a god. The child as it
was before it died out of your arms thrones upon thrones. Dominion upon dominion just as you—
Baptism of water fire and Holy Ghost. are inseparably
connected.--found in the German Bible to prove what I have taught for 14 years
about baptism.--I baptize you with water. but when Jesus comes having the keys--he
shall baptize you with the baptism of fire and Holy Ghost.—
Leaving the principles of doctrine of baptism etc.-- one god,
one baptism, and one baptism-- I.E. all three.
called upon all men, Priests, and all to repent and obey the gospel.--if they do not, they will be damned. --those who commit the unpardonable sin are doomed to Gnaolom. without end. God dwells in everlasting burnings.--Love all men but hate your deeds.—
called upon all men, Priests, and all to repent and obey the gospel.--if they do not, they will be damned. --those who commit the unpardonable sin are doomed to Gnaolom. without end. God dwells in everlasting burnings.--Love all men but hate your deeds.—
You don’t know me--you never will I don’t blame you for not
believing my history. Had I not experienced
it, I could not believe it myself.
5 ½ closed.
Date 7 April 1844 (Sunday Afternoon)
Location: At Temple, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, USA
5 ½ closed.
Date 7 April 1844 (Sunday Afternoon)
Location: At Temple, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, USA
Source: Samuel W. Richards Records (Words of Joseph Smith, 361)
Must know the only living and true God and Jesus Christ, to have eternal life, God: a man like one of us, even like Adam. Not God from all Eternity. Once on a planet with flesh and blood, like Christ. As the father hath life in himself etc. To know God learn to become God’s Exalted by the addition of subjects to his family, or kingdom.
Create (Burrau, in Hebrew,) which means organize from Element Chaos, or Element, All things revealed to us as through we had no bodies, for the exaltation of our Spirits, hence our bodies being connected, cannot commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body.
Date: 7 April 1844 (Sunday Afternoon)
Location: At Temple, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, USA
Must know the only living and true God and Jesus Christ, to have eternal life, God: a man like one of us, even like Adam. Not God from all Eternity. Once on a planet with flesh and blood, like Christ. As the father hath life in himself etc. To know God learn to become God’s Exalted by the addition of subjects to his family, or kingdom.
Create (Burrau, in Hebrew,) which means organize from Element Chaos, or Element, All things revealed to us as through we had no bodies, for the exaltation of our Spirits, hence our bodies being connected, cannot commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body.
Date: 7 April 1844 (Sunday Afternoon)
Location: At Temple, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, USA
Source: Thomas Bullock Report (Words of Joseph Smith, 348-355)
The President having arrived--the Choir sung an hymn Elder Amasa Lyman prayed.
The Prophet while I address you on the subject which was contemplated in the forepart of the Conference.-- as the Wind blows very hard it will be hardly possible for me to make you all hear. It is of the greatest importance and the most solemn of any that could occupy our attention and that is the subject of the dead on the decease of our brother Follett who was crushed to death in a well--and inasmuch as there are a great many in this congregation who live in this city and who have lost friends, I shall speak in general and offer you my ideas so far as I have ability and so far as I shall be inspired by the Holy Spirit to dwell on his subject. I want your prayer, faith, the inspiration of Almighty God to say things that are true and shall carry the testimony to your hearts and pray that he may strengthen my lungs--stay the winds--and let the prayers of the Saints to heaven appear--for the prayers of the righteous avail much and I verily believe that your prayers shall be heard. Before I enter in this investigation fully of the subject that is lying before us I wish to make a few preliminaries in order that you may understand when I come to it that I do not calculate to please your ears with oratory with much learning, but I calculate to edify you with simple truths from Heaven. I wish to go back to the beginning: of creation--it is necessary to know the mind, decree and ordination of the great Elohim beginning at the creation, and it is necessary for us to have an understanding of God at the beginning. If we start right it is very easy for us to go right all the time. But if we start wrong, it is hard to get right. There are very few who understand rightly the character of God--They do not comprehend any thing that is past or that which is to come and com: but little more than the brute beast if a man learns, knows nothing more than to eat, drink, sleep, and does not comprehend any of the design of God, the Beast com the same thing, eats, drinks sleeps—knows nothing more, and how are we to do it? By no other way than the inspiration of Almighty God.
The President having arrived--the Choir sung an hymn Elder Amasa Lyman prayed.
The Prophet while I address you on the subject which was contemplated in the forepart of the Conference.-- as the Wind blows very hard it will be hardly possible for me to make you all hear. It is of the greatest importance and the most solemn of any that could occupy our attention and that is the subject of the dead on the decease of our brother Follett who was crushed to death in a well--and inasmuch as there are a great many in this congregation who live in this city and who have lost friends, I shall speak in general and offer you my ideas so far as I have ability and so far as I shall be inspired by the Holy Spirit to dwell on his subject. I want your prayer, faith, the inspiration of Almighty God to say things that are true and shall carry the testimony to your hearts and pray that he may strengthen my lungs--stay the winds--and let the prayers of the Saints to heaven appear--for the prayers of the righteous avail much and I verily believe that your prayers shall be heard. Before I enter in this investigation fully of the subject that is lying before us I wish to make a few preliminaries in order that you may understand when I come to it that I do not calculate to please your ears with oratory with much learning, but I calculate to edify you with simple truths from Heaven. I wish to go back to the beginning: of creation--it is necessary to know the mind, decree and ordination of the great Elohim beginning at the creation, and it is necessary for us to have an understanding of God at the beginning. If we start right it is very easy for us to go right all the time. But if we start wrong, it is hard to get right. There are very few who understand rightly the character of God--They do not comprehend any thing that is past or that which is to come and com: but little more than the brute beast if a man learns, knows nothing more than to eat, drink, sleep, and does not comprehend any of the design of God, the Beast com the same thing, eats, drinks sleeps—knows nothing more, and how are we to do it? By no other way than the inspiration of Almighty God.
(Continued later. Check back with this same post periodically for updates. B.L.S.)
